209. P.D. James - The Children of Men


Novelist Andrew Hunter Murray and biographer Laura Thompson join us to discuss The Children of Men (1992), a dystopian thriller by the late P.D. James. The author is probably best remembered as one of Britain's greatest exponents of detective fiction, an heir to the Golden Age of female novelists such as Agatha Christie, Ngaio Marsh, Dorothy Sayers et al. In The Children of Men, however, James depicts a nightmare near-future in which the world is literally coming to an end. The book became a bestseller; in 2006, it was adapted for the big screen by the Mexican director Alfonso Cuarón. We look at the ways in which James explored issues that seem eerily contemporary: the societal impact of an uncontrolled virus, falling fertility rates, an ageing population, the rise of populism and accompanying exploitation of migrant labour. She also knew how to grip her readers to the very last page. Phyllis Dorothy James, Baroness James of Holland Park, lived a long and remarkable life and it was a pleasure for all of us to revisit her work and biography in this episode. 

Books mentioned
P.D. James - The Children of Men; An Unsuitable Job for a Woman
Andrew Hunter Murray - The Last Day; Sanctuary; A Beginners Guide to Breaking and Entering; QI: The Third Book of General Ignorance
Laura Thompson - Take Six Girls: The Lives of the Mitford Sisters; A Different Class of Murder: The Story of Lord Lucan; Agatha Christie: A Mysterious Life; Rex v Edith Thompson: A Tale of Two Murders; The Last Landlady: An English Memoir; The Dogs

Other links
Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/page-94-the-private-eye-podcast/id973958702
No Such Thing as a Fish - https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/
Meeting P. D. James’s Legendary Detective Adam Dalgliesh - https://www.faber.co.uk/product-category/fiction/crime-and-thriller/adam-dalgliesh-mysteries/page/2/
Prev. Backlisted episodes ft. Laura Thompson - episode 4, Nancy Mitford The Blessing; episode 112, Antonia White Frost in May

208. Anne Sexton - All My Pretty Ones

Award-winning poet Emily Berry joins us to consider the work and troubled life of Anne Sexton. We focus on her brilliant second collection All My Pretty Ones (1962). Sexton was a trailblazing American poet of the so-called 'confessional' school of the 1960s, one whose writing continues to provoke controversy and debate; her friends and contemporaries included Sylvia Plath and John Berryman. We hear from Sexton herself, in recordings of readings and interviews, and fronting own experimental jazz-rock ensemble, Anne Sexton and Her Kind, and also from her daughter Linda.

Please note: Anne Sexton was an unflinching chronicler of her own struggle with mental illness, and this episode contains extensive discussion of suicide and sexual abuse.

Books mentioned
Anne Sexton - All My Pretty Ones; Mercies: Selected Poems; No Evil Star: Selected Essays, Interviews, and Prose; Anne Sexton: A Self-Portrait in Letters
Emily Berry - Dear Boy,  Stranger Baby, Unexhausted Time; The Breakfast Bible; ‘The White Review: The Secret Country of Her Mind’

Other links
Emily Berry website - https://www.emilyberry.co.uk/
Sleep World app - https://sleepworlds.com/
The New School of Confessional Poetry - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/collections/151109/an-introduction-to-confessional-poetry
Anne Sexton and Her Kind Sound Recordings, 1968-1971 - https://library.harvard.edu/collections/anne-sexton-and-her-kind-sound-recordings-1968-1971
Anne Sexton at home reading Wanting to Die - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM6nWRXCQD8

207. Coffee Table Books

This fully illustrated, lavishly produced episode of Backlisted represents the last word in coffee table books. Join John, Andy and Nicky as we dip into the origin, design and continuing appeal of specialist hardcover publishing, via some of our favourite cookery books, exhibition catalogues and sumptuous volumes simply too beautiful to leave on the shelf. Thank you to our Patrons for their contributions to our virtual quarto library; as you will hear, we loved making this show, which is as deep as it is long. And remember: a coffee table book is for life, not just for Christmas.

Books mentioned
Robert Carrier - Great Dishes of the World 
Marguerite Patten - Everyday Cookbook in Colour
Reader's Digest - Folklore Myths and legends of Britain
Basil Spence, Henk Snoek - Out of the Ashes: A Progress through Coventry Cathedral
The Beatles: Get Back also available via Rough Trades Book
Jenny Lister (ed.) - Mary Quant
Ansel Adams - This is the American Earth
Sandy Lesberg - Assassination in our Time

Other links
Don McCullin - https://donmccullin.com/
Paul Hamlyn - https://www.phf.org.uk/about-phf/paul-hamlyn/

206. Michael Powell - A Life in Movies

This episode of Backlisted is devoted to A Life in Movies (1986), the first volume of memoirs of the filmmaker Michael Powell who, with his partner Emeric Pressburger, is responsible for some of the finest, most magical and soulful films ever to come out of the UK: The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Black Narcissus, The Red Shoes, and many more. Joining us for a discussion of Powell's life and work - and his vision of cinema as a space in which all the other arts may find expression - are memoirist and critic James Cook and film writer and academic Melanie Williams. We focus on four productions of the Archers that between them tell the story of Powell and Pressburger's achievement: The Spy in Black, A Matter of Life and Death, "I Know Where I'm Going!" and Gone to Earth. If you have yet to see these films, or any of Michael Powell's work, set aside some time for your next personal obsession. You'll be glad you did.

Books mentioned
Michael Powell - A Life in Movies
James Cook - Memory Songs: A Personal Journey Into the Music that Shaped the 90s; In Her Room: How Music Helped Me Connect With My Autistic Daughter
Melanie Williams - Ealing Revisited (editor): David Lean; Female Stars of British Cinema: The Women in Question; Sixties British Cinema Reconsidered; A Taste of Honey: BFI Film Classics
David Niven - The Moon’s a Balloon

Films mentioned
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Peeping Tom
Black Narcissus
The Red Shoes
The Spy in Black
A Matter of Life and Death
"I Know Where I'm Going!"
Gone to Earth

Other links
Review 31 website
A Taste of Honey - The Royal Exchange, Manchester
Criterion Channel

205. George Melly - Scouse Mouse

This episode was recorded in the great city of Liverpool and celebrates the life and work of a great Liverpudlian: George Melly, sometime writer, jazz and blues singer, artist, critic, lecturer and aficionado of surrealism. We are joined by two resident experts: the writer Jeff Young and the playwright and screenwriter, Lizzie Nunnery. The book under discussion is Melly’s Scouse Mouse, which is chronologically the first part of Melly’s memoirs. It was first published by Weidenfeld & Nicolson in 1984 and was the third to be released despite covering the first fourteen years of Melly’s life, painting a vivid portrait of growing up in a middle-class Liverpool family, tinged with eccentricity and theatricality, and his painful experiences at boarding school. Subtitled ‘I Never Got Over It’, it was preceded by Rum, Bum & Concertina, an account of his time in the navy, published in 1977, and Owning Up, which covers his years as an aspiring musician in the jazz world of the 1950s, first published in 1965. The final volume, Slowing Down was published in 2005, two years before Melly died.

Scouse Mouse was Melly’s personal favourite of the four: ‘I don’t know why the events of over sixty years ago should be so much clearer than those of yesterday afternoon, but they are.’ He also adopted that ever-useful motto for the memoirist: ‘Life is lived forwards but understood backwards.’ How much this classic childhood memoir helps us understand the outrageous, complex and multi-faceted life of the grown-up George Melly is just one of the things the panel explore. They also revisit his brilliant book on the pop culture of the 1960s, Revolt Into Style, a book Andy first discussed back on episode 22 on Randall Jarrell’s The Animal Family.

This podcast was filmed and will be available as a video on our Youtube channel from Monday 19th Feb. We will also be posting an extra half hour of this episode on the Patreon next weekend for subscribers only.

Books mentioned
George Melly - Owning Up: The Trilogy (ft. Scouse Mouse, Rum, Bum & Concertina and Owning Up - also available at Foyles bookshop if sold out on Hive);  Slowing Down; Revolt Into Style
Jeff Young - Ghost Town: A Liverpool Shadowplay; Deliria
Lizzie Nunnery - Intemperance; Unprotected; Heavy Weather; Narvik; Another World (short film); With Love (forthcoming film); Daphne: A Fire in Malta (BBC Radio 4)

Other links
Background Reading on George Melly - https://heritage.humanists.uk/george-melly/
Chris Wade - The Life and Work of George Melly
George Melly - At The Tate, St. Ives (as heard BBC Radio 2, 1995) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QIMx2qazwU
1982 interview with George Melly on The Importance of Art - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crt-AazOHdg

204. Love on the Dole - Walter Greenwood

We are joined by the writer Andrew Hankinson to discuss Walter Greenwood’s classic novel of Northern working-class life. First published in 1933, Love on the Dole, revolves explores the fortunes of the Hardcastle family, who live in industrial Salford in the 1930s, just as the Depression is beginning to bite. Greenwood’s authentic portrayal of the corrosive effects of mass unemployment and poverty was well received by critics, but it wasn’t until the 1934 stage version had become a hit, that the book became a bestseller. It is estimated that a million people has seen the play by the end of 1935 and the book has remained in print ever since. However, it had to wait until 1941 before being made into a classic film which featured Deborah Kerr in her first starring role. We discuss the books connections to other working-class novels, its wider cultural impact and its influence on the gritty social dramas of the 1960s, the interesting differences between the book and the film adaptation, and we ask why, despite the classic status accorded to Love on the Dole, Greenwood himself and his nine other novels have faded into obscurity.

Books mentioned
Walter Greenwood - Love on the Dole; Standing Room Only; Cure for Love
Andrew Hankinson - You Could Do Something Amazing With Your Life [You Are Raoul Moat]; Don’t Applaud. Either Laugh Or Don’t
Chris Hopkins - Walter Greenwood's 'Love on the Dole': Novel, Play, Film
John Healy - The Grass Arena
Alan Sillitoe - The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner
George Orwell - The Road To Wigan Pier
Shelagh Delaney - A Taste of Honey
Robert Tressell - The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists

Other links
Background reading on Walter Greenwood (Chris Hopkins’ website) - https://waltergreenwoodnotjustloveonthedole.com/
Logroll podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/logroll/id1588244277; https://open.spotify.com/show/1qQ3kqM8Ws8DpgKmNOYr4o
Watch Love on the Dole - BFI Player; Amazon Prime
Watch The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner - Amazon Prime

203. Margaret Laurence - The Stone Angel

For this first episode of 2024 we are joined by the chair of Virago Press, Lennie Goodings to discuss a novel by her fellow Canadian, Margaret Laurence. First published in 1964, The Stone Angel is a landmark in modern Canadian fiction. The narrator is the unforgettable Hagar Shipley, a spiky, sharp-tongued, proud and profane ninety-year-old who is trying to resist her family’s attempts to transfer her into a nursing home. This battle is interwoven with memories of her long and difficult life, much of it spent in the Manitoban prairie town of Manawaka, a place closely based on Laurence’s own home town of Neepawa and which would provide the setting for three more novels and a collection of stories. We discuss the book’s place in the Canadian pantheon and speculate on why it hasn’t become an established classic outside Canada (it is no longer in print with Virago). We also discover some unexpected coincidences among Margaret Laurence’s neighbours during the years she lived in England in the late sixties and early seventies. This is a book that deserves to find many more new readers.

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Books Mentioned
Margaret Laurence - The Stone Angel; A Jest of God; The Diviners; Recognition and Revelation: Short Non-Fiction Writings
Lennie Goodings - A Bite of the Apple: A Life with Books, Writers and Virago

Other Links
Poet in the City - https://www.poetinthecity.co.uk/
Virago Press - https://www.virago.co.uk

202. Backlisted Christmas Special - A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens

For this year’s Backlisted Christmas Special we are joined by the poet and novelist Clare Pollard and our producer Nicky Birch to discuss not just a book, but adaptations of a book – and there are hundreds to choose from – and all have contributed to making it perhaps the most famous Christmas story of them all: A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. Written in six weeks in 1843, it was a massive and immediate success, selling out its first run of 6,000 copies by Christmas Eve. It has been in print ever since and has come to define the festive period for millions of readers, listeners and viewers. We explore why and how this fable – terrifying in parts, warm and reassuring in others – has exerted such a hold on our collective imagination. We each pick a favourite version (you’ll have to listen to find out which) but also range over others from Richard Williams’ celebrated 1971 animation to those featuring Mister Magoo and Ebeneezer Blackadder. Plus Andy has compiled a special festive playlist for you to listen to over the mulled wine and marzipan fruits. There never was such an episode! 

And finally, on this most special of days, we’d like thank you all for your support during the year and to wish you: A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Books mentioned
Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
Clare Pollard - Incarnation; The Modern Fairies; Fierce Bad Rabbits; Delphi
Chris Priestley - The Last of the Spirits

Other links
Mister Magoos Christmas Carol (1962)
A Christmas Carol (Richard Williams Productions, 1971)
Blackadder’s Christmas Carol
Scrooge The Musical with Albert Finney
Scrooged - The Movie
A Muppet Christmas Carol - stream via Disney; Apple TV
Andy’s festive playlist

201. Basil Bunting - Briggflatts

Today’s episode focuses on a single long poem – Briggflatts by the Northumbrian poet Basil Bunting. It was recorded live in St Mary’s Church, Woodstock in Oxfordshire, as part of the Woodstock Poetry Festival. Andy and John are joined by Neil Astley, the founder of Bloodaxe Books, who knew and published Bunting, and Kirsten Norrie, a poet and composer who writes and performs under her Highland name, MacGillivray. The episode begins and ends with recordings made in 1977 of Bunting reading from the poem, which was first published in 1966. Until that time, Bunting, who in the 1930s had been a friend to W. B. Yeats and Ezra Pound, was living in semi-obscurity in rural Northumbria. It was his live readings of the poem, subtitled ‘An Autobiography’ at the medieval Mordern Tower in Newcastle that transformed his reputation. We discuss his remarkable and sometimes controversial life – before his exile he was at various times a music critic, a sailor, a balloon operator, a wing commander, a military interpreter, a foreign correspondent, and a spy – and its relationship to his work, and particularly Briggflatts, now regarded as one of the greatest English poems of the 20th century.

Books mentioned
Basil Bunting - Briggflatts; Basil Bunting: Complete Poems
Neil Astley - Staying Alive; The Sheep Who Changed the World
Kirsten Norrie - Ravage: An Astonishment of Fire; The Last Wolf of Scotland; Scottish Lost Boys (forthcoming November 2024); An American Book of the Dead (forthcoming 2025)
Rosemary Tonks - The Bloater; Bedouin of the London Evening

Other links
Basil Bunting reading from Briggflatts (Bloodaxe Books)
A World of My Own: Basil Bunting (A film by Jeremy Lack, 1969)

200. Nevil Shute - Trustee From the Toolroom

For our 200th episode, we are joined by Richard Osman: television presenter, longtime Backlisted listener, and one of the bestselling authors in the world today. We discuss Trustee from the Toolroom (1960), the final novel by Nevil Shute Norway, whose other books include A Town Like Alice (1950) and On the Beach (1957), widely read in his lifetime but now somewhat forgotten or ignored. How did Shute's long and distinguished stint as an aeronautical engineer fit with his parallel career as a prominent and much-loved author? And what do his tales of ordinary people doing extraordinary things have to offer us in the 21st century? Richard also shares with John and Andy what he's been reading this week; and if you've been with us from the start, you will appreciate his choices all the more.

Books mentioned:
Nevil Shute - Trustee from the Toolroom; A Town Like Alice; On the Beach; In the Wet; Slide Rule: An Autobigraphy
Richard Osman - The Thursday Murder Club; The Man Who Died Twice; The Bullet That Missed; The Last Devil to Die
J.L. Carr - A Month in the Country
Alan Partridge - A Big Beacon; A Big Beacon (audiobook)
Barbara Pym - Quartet in Autumn

Other links:
Great Lives (BBC R4) - Nevil Shute with Adam Hart-Davis and Heather Mayfield, (Nevil Shute’s daughter)
The Nevil Shute Norway Foundation

199. Samuel Beckett - Plays, Essays, Novels and Stories:

© Henri Cartier-Bresson | Magnum Photos

In this episode, we feature the life and work of Samuel Beckett, one of the most important and influential voices of 20th century literature. We discuss Beckett’s writing across five decades, including his essays, short stories, novels and plays: ‘Dante… Bruno. Vico… Joyce’; More Pricks Than Kicks; The Unnamable; Krapp’s Last Tape; and the late masterpiece Company. And we also ruminate on the fact that Backlisted has now been going on (it must go on, it can’t go on, it’ll go on) for eight years, notching up nearly 200 episodes. We hope you enjoy this memorable and moving recording AKA Spool #199.

Books mentioned
Samuel Beckett - Our Examination Round Our Factification For Incamination of Work in Progress; The Unnamable; Krapp’s Last Tape; Waiting for Godot; Not I; Company; More Pricks Than Kicks

198. M. R. James - Ghost Stories of an Antiquary

Pour yourself a glass of sherry and light a candle, as we dedicate this year's Halloween special to Ghost Stories of an Antiquary (1904), the first collection by M.R. James, probably the most celebrated and influential exponent of the weird tale. With the help of undead guests Andrew Male and Laura Varnam we illuminate the life and work of a strange and singular author, one whose writings, like the engraving in 'The Mezzotint', have truly taken on a life of their own.

Books mentioned
M.R. James - Ghost Stories of an Antiquary; A Warning to the Curious; Lost Hearts; Canon Alberic's Scrap-Book; The Five Jars; A Thin Ghost and Others; A Warning to the Curious; Curious Warnings
Penelope Fitzgerald - The Gate of Angels

Other links
Dr Laura Varnam - https://www.univ.ox.ac.uk/academics/laura-varnam/
Andrew Male - https://t.co/GAk77aIlb1
MR James's ghost stories: celebrate Halloween the old-fashioned way - https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2011/oct/31/mr-james-ghost-stories-halloween
The Haunting of M.R. James BBC Radio 4 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001l7c
The M.R. James BBC Radio Collection - https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/The-M-R-James-BBC-Radio-Collection-Audiobook/1787538990

Backlisted Special: What Have You Been Reading?

We planned this as a short Backlisted to fill the gap before we release the Hallowe’en episode next week and as part of our episode 200 celebrations. As you will discover, it turned out a little longer than planned!  

In it, we each select a book we’ve particularly enjoyed over the past year. Andy returns to The Sarah Book by Scott McClanahan (Tyrant Books) and reads a different extract sparking a different kind of discussion;  Nicky talks about Wifedom by Anna Funder (Granta), an genre-busting account of the life Eileen Maud Blair, the first wife of George Orwell, linking it back to the themes of The True History of the First Mrs Meredith episode; and John praises Cuddy by Benjamin Myers (Bloomsbury), a rich and formally audacious novel based on the life and legends of St Cuthbert, the patron saint of North East England. The discussion leads us in all kinds of unexpected directions in classic Backlisted fashion.

Books Mentioned
Scott McClanahan - The Sarah Book
Anna Funder - Wifedom, Stasiland
Benjamin Myers - Cuddy
Rebecca Solnit - Orwell’s Roses
Sylvia Topp - Eileen: The Making of George Orwell

Timings: (may differ due to variable advert length)

00:00 Intro
04:22 The Sarah Book by Scott McClanahan
19:32 Wifedom by Anna Funder
38:26 Cuddy by Benjamin Myers

The traditional Backlisted 'what have you been reading this week?' slot which used to appear at the start of each episode, has now been moved to our Patreon only show (for those subscribers on the Locklisted level). Subscribers can hear fortnightly programmes with John, Andy and Nicky talking about books they have been reading as well as films, music and TV they've enjoyed.

197. Diane Johnson - The True History of the First Mrs Meredith

Episode 197 is dedicated to our late friend Carmen Callil, the founder of Virago, an author in her own right and, on a couple of memorable occasions, a former guest on Backlisted (episode 80 and episode 102).

Joining us are the writer Rachel Cooke and critic and editor Lucy Scholes. Under discussion: The True History of the First Mrs Meredith and Other Lesser Lives by Diane Johnson, first published in 1972 and reissued in 2020 by New York Review Books. Is this imaginative, funny, heartfelt, headstrong book a novel, a biography, an alternative history, a feminist polemic, a work of literary criticism or something else entirely? To which the answer is a far-from-straightforward: Yes. We hope you enjoy this conversation - and a unique book - as much as we did.

Books mentioned
Diane Johnson - The True History of the First Mrs Meredith and Other Lesser Lives; Lorna Mott Comes Home; Flyover Lives; Lulu in Marrakech; L’Affaire; Le Mariage; Le Divorce; Lying Low; The Shadow Knows
Carmen Callil - Bad Faith: A History of Family and Fatherland; Oh Happy Day: Those Times and These Times
Rachel Cooke - The Virago Book of Friendship; Kitchen Person: Notes on Cooking and Eating; Her Brilliant Career: Ten Extraordinary Women of the Fifties
Lucy Scholes - A Different Sound: Stories by Mid-Century Women Writers
Rosamond Lehmann - Dusty Answer
Stevie Smith - Novel on Yellow Paper
Phyllis Rose - Parallel Lives
Richard Holmes - Footsteps

Other links
Lucy Scholes’ column and podcast - Re-Covered archive (Paris Review) and Ourshelves podcast (Virago Books)

196. George Moore - Esther Waters

In this episode we discuss the controversial and ground-breaking novel, Esther Waters by the Irish novelist George Moore. We are joined by Tom Crewe, author of the prize-winning New Life (Chatto & Windus) and one of this year’s crop of Granta’s Best of Young British Novelists. Esther Waters was first published in 1894 and is told almost entirely from the point of view of an illiterate working-class woman, who falls pregnant by a fellow servant, is abandoned by him, and decides to raise their child on her own. Telling her story allows Moore to catalogue the glamour and sordidness of 1890s London society in astonishing detail and his refusal to judge his heroine led to it being banned from W.H. Smith’s railway bookstores. Despite (or because of) this, it sold over 24,000 copies in its first year and has been in print ever since. We examine what sets Moore apart from other writers of the time, including Émile Zola, Thomas Hardy and George Gissing, why it has had such a positive influence on later admirers like James Joyce, Jean Rhys and Colm Tóibín, and how its simplicity of style and detailed presentation of Esther’s inner life feel so surprisingly contemporary.

Books mentioned
George Moore - Esther Waters; Confessions of a Young Man; A Drama in Muslin; The Brook Kerith: A Syrian Story
Tom Crewe - New Life
Colm Tóibín - Brooklyn
James Joyce - The Dubliners
Thomas Hardy - Tess of the D'Urbervilles
Kate Chopin - The Awakening
George Gissing - The Odd Women; New Grub Street; In the Year of Jubilee; The Whirlpool
Jean Rhys - Wide Sargasso Sea
Charlotte Brontë - Jane Eyre

Other links
Esther Waters (1948) - film starring Dirk Bogarde

195. Kurt Vonnegut - Galapágos


In this episode we are delighted to welcome 2023 Booker Prize Winner Shehan Karunatilaka to discuss Kurt Vonnegut’s eleventh novel, Galapágos. First published in 1985, it is one of his most radical, intricate and humorous works, a Darwinian satire narrated by a ghost from a million years in the future. As Lorrie Moore wrote about it at the time, Vonnegut’s ‘grumbly and idiomatic voice has always been his own, unfakeable and childlike, and his humanity, persisting as it does through his pessimism.’ We talk about where Galapágos book stands in Vonnegut’s long career, its continuing relevance to a world even more dominated by technology and the climate emergency, and whether with the two novels the followed (Bluebeard and Hocus Pocus) it represented a return to form. We discuss Vonnegut's second career as a quotable talk show guest and ponder the seeming mismatch between his enduring popularity with readers and his less stable critical reputation. Shehan also offers us frank and fascinating insights into the influence that this book and ‘Uncle Kurt’s work in general has had on his own work, particularly the Booker winner The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida, also narrated by a ghost.

Books mentioned:

Kurt Vonnegut - Galapágos; Bluebeard; Slapstick: Or Lonesome No More; Hocus Pocus, Slaughterhouse Five; Cat's Cradle; Player Piano; A Man Without a Country
Shehan Karunatilaka - The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida; Chinaman
Tom Roston - The Writer's Crusade: Kurt Vonnegut and the Many Lives of Slaughterhouse-Five`

Other links:

Kurt Vonnegut: Unstuck in Time (2022) - this is an excellent documentary. It can be rented via Prime. Here's the trailer.
Kurt Vonnegut and Martin Amis in conversation, London 1983
Kurt Vonnegut: After the Slaughterhouse (1983), essay by Martin Amis
Review of Galapagos by Lorrie Moore
Kurt Vonnegut official website
The Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library
The Police official website
The Art of Fiction no 64, Paris Review (1976)

194. Barry Hines - A Kestrel for a Knave


Author and illustrator Rose Blake and writer and musician Bob Stanley (Saint Etienne) joined Andy and John at the Green Man festival in Wales on August 18th 2023 to discuss Barry Hines's second novel A Kestrel for a Knave (1968) and, inevitably, the film adaptation Kes (1969), directed by Ken Loach from a screenplay by Hines himself. This episode was recorded in front of a large crowd of festivalgoers, most of whom had either read the book or seen the film, or both. Why does this apparently simple story of a boy and a bird continue to speak to us nearly 60 years after it was written? And what does that say about the changes in British society in the same period - or lack of them?

Books mentioned

Barry Hines - A Kestrel for a Knave; The Gamekeeper
Rose Blake - A History of Words for Children; Meet the Artist: David Hockney; Egg and Spoon
Bob Stanley - Bee Gees: Children of the World; Let's Do It: The Birth of Pop; Yeah Yeah Yeah: The Story of Modern Pop

Other links
Kes (Ken Loach’s adaptation)
Threads (1984 drama by Barry Hines)

193. Summer Reading Special

This week, to mix things up a little, it’s our annual round-up of books, old and new, you might enjoy over the summer. John, Andy and Backlisted’s producer Nicky discuss: O Caledonia by Elspeth Barker (W&N Essentials); Sheep’s Clothing by Celia Dale (Daunt Books); The Stirrings: A Memoir in Northern Time by Catherine Taylor (Weidenfeld & Nicolson); Old God’s Time by Sebastian Barry (Faber); A Spell of Good Things by Ayobami Adebayo (Canongate); and The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band Who Burned a Million Pounds (Weidenfeld and Nicolson).

Books mentioned
Elspeth Barker - O Caledonia
Celia Dale - Sheep’s Clothing
Catherine Taylor - The Stirrings: A Memoir in Northern Time
Sebastian Barry - Old God’s Time
Ayobami Adebayo - A Spell of Good Things
John Higgs - The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band Who Burned a Million Pounds

192. E.M. Forster - A Passage to India

Things are a little different on this week’s episode of Backlisted. Recorded at our first live event of 2023, John and Andy are at Dartington Hall, Devon for Byline Festival. Joining us are novelist, playwright and memoirist Alice Jolly for her third appearance on Backlisted - joining us on episode 7 and episode 86 previously - and novelist Patrick McCabe, who joined us on episode 140, to discuss the A Passage to India by E.M. Forster. 

First published in 1924, by the end of that year, A Passage to India had sold 17,000 copies in Britain and 54,000 in the USA and today is viewed as a seminal text in post-colonial literature. A Passage to India grapples with, among many themes, colonialism and faith, and is set against the backdrop of the British Raj and the Indian independence movement in the 1920s. In this episode we reflect on its legacy today.

Books mentioned
E.M. Forster - A Passage to India; Howard’s End; The Machine Stops; Maurice; Where Angels Fear to Tread; The Longest Journey
Sophie Divry - The Library of Unrequited Love
Jay Griffiths - Nemesis, My Friend: Journeys Through the Turning Times
Alice Jolly - From Far Around They Saw Us Burn; Mary Ann Sate, Imbecile
Patrick McCabe - Goldengrove; Poguemahone; Breakfast on Pluto; The Butcher Boy

Other links
The 1985 film of A Passage to India

191. Margaret Drabble - The Millstone

Novelist Linda Grant and critic and editor Lucy Scholes return to Backlisted for a discussion of Margaret Drabble's third novel The Millstone, a book which has remained in print ever since it was first published in 1965, when Drabble was 26 years old; it was adapted for the screen by the author herself in 1969 as A Touch of Love, starring Sandy Dennis, Eleanor Bron and, making his film debut, Sir Ian McKellen. This story of a shy but determined young woman's decision to keep her baby and raise the child alone remains as relevant as ever. But The Millstone also speaks volumes of the era in which it was written, during which Margaret Drabble was a rising star in the literary firmament; and Andy, John, Linda and Lucy were delighted to have the opportunity to celebrate both novel and author, who is now 84.

Books mentioned:
Margaret Drabble - The Millstone; Jerusalem the Golden; A Natural Curiosity; The Red Queen; The Sea Lady; A Summer Bird-Cage
Linda Grant - The story of the Forest; The Clothes On Their Backs; The Thoughtful Dresser; The Dark Circle; A Stranger City; Remind Me Who I Am, Again; When I Lived In Modern Times
Lucy Scholes - A Different Sound: Stories by Mid-Century Women Writers; Saturday Lunch with the Brownings (introduction by Lucy Scholes)

Other links:
Lucy Scholes’ column and podcast - Re-Covered archive (Paris Review) and Ourshelves podcast (Virago Books)
Margaret Drabble discusses The Millstone on World Book Club
One Pair of Eyes, BBC, 1968
A Touch of Love, Waris Hussein, 1969